Fox news has an article up regarding the resurgence of people who believe the Earth is flat. However before we dive in to the meat of this just look at how the article begins.
Global warming? Somewhat controversial. Evolution? Even more so. Still, there’s one well-founded scientific notion that everyone can agree upon: The Earth is round, like a ball.
Global warming somewhat controversial not to science, the controversy is if man is the main cause of the warming or to a lesser degree are we contributing to accelerated warming. There is no real controversy on if the planet is getting warmer.
Evolution is only controversial to those who reject science altogether. Poor reporting to start out, but they get the Earth is a sphere correct.
“People are definitely prejudiced against flat-Earthers,” Tennessee-based computer scientist and society member John Davis tells the BBC. “Many use the term ‘flat-Earther’ as a term of abuse, and with connotations that imply blind faith, ignorance or even anti-intellectualism.”
Maybe that is because the term does imply blind faith, ignorance, and anti-intellectualism, the notion is absurd. The article does point out the response from the flat earth believers to evidence that the Earth is a sphere.
The moon landings? Faked, say the flat-Earthers. Satellite images of the Earth? Fake, fake, fake.
Ah yes its all a fake, they believe the lunar landings were a hoax… come on… and satellite images are fake too, this is nothing short than alleging a world wide conspiracy of governments and scientists… COME ON. Of course we treat these ideas with scorn they are ridiculous, absurd, laughable.
SO what does the earth look like?
Folks this is not a joke, I wish it were, but people are serious in the belief that the Earth is flat, I want to laugh but this is just too sad.
For that matter are all people evil? Is this something that Christianity teaches? I recently wrote a post about Ray Comforts Atheist Starter Kit. In the comments to that post there is an ongoing discussion with a commenter named Russ. In this discussion he brought up the idea that people are evil by their very nature. I have found this concept to be intriguing and felt that these comments deserved some wider review. Here are a couple of the relevant comments regarding the idea that all people are evil.
On August 7, 2008 at 12:01 pm Russ Said: |Edit This
No, I do not believe that Jesus was the only person to be unjustly punished and yes, I agree, people can be brutal to others for no just cause. But why? Why are people vicious and brutal to others for no reason? I believe the reason that men do evil things is because men are evil by nature.
This is exactly what the Bible testifies concerning man. The Bible declares that mankind is evil by nature.
“The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it? [Jer 17:9]
And Jesus said, “”For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within and defile a man.” [Mark 7:21-23]
And the Bible says that this is why Jesus was crucified. Because He testifies that mankind is evil.
The world cannot hate you, but it hates Me because I testify of it that its works are evil. [John 7:7]
The crucifixion of Jesus is the ultimate testimony of the evil nature of mankind for mankind brutally murdered the Prince of Peace.
But the crucifixion of Jesus Christ not only testifies of the evil nature of man, it also testifies of the love of God for it was on the cross that Jesus paid the price for our sin by dying in our place. He took the punishment that we deserve – death – so that we could be reconciled to God.
For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. [2 Cor 5:21]
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. [Rom 6:23]
The Bible clearly testifies to mankind that we are evil by nature. And because man is evil by nature, mankind is condemned but the Bible also testifies that God loves us and is not willing that any should perish.
The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. [2 Per 3:9]
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. [John 3:16]
I responded to this belief asking if he knows himself to be evil, to which he freely agree that he knows he is an evil person.
On August 8, 2008 at 5:42 pm Russ Said: |Edit This
Absolutely I believe that I am evil by nature. That is why I need a Savior and that is why you need a savior as well because we are all made of the same flesh and we all have the same evil desires:
Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries… [Gal 5:19-21]
But when a person becomes a Christian, God gives them new desires:
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. [2 Cor 5:17]
He agrees that he is evil, but since he is a christian he has been given new I assume non evil desires. However his nature is evil. This is a concept that he is supporting by using biblical quotes. You can read the comments back over at the original post. What interests me here is if you are a Christian (define that as you will) I have a few questions regarding this and your beliefs on the topic… because after years of Catholic school the idea that ALL people are evil by their nature was not discussed in any major way and I don’t recall it being applied to all people.
- Do you agree that ALL people are evil by nature? That people are born evil?
- If you agree with question 1 do you agree that you know yourself to be evil?
- If you were not christian would you succumb to your evil nature and engage in any of the acts listed by Russ above?… adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries
- what stops the other 4 Billion christians from not being evil?
I personally do not believe people are born good or evil per se, for me these questions are a bit more involved and complicated, in future posts maybe I can explore my thoughts on specific moral quandaries of good and evil. However for now I am as I began, intrigued by this idea that bible teaches us all people are evil by their nature and how it relates to people’s concept of Christianity and their view of themselves?
Please share your thoughts…
I take one look at this and all sorts of bells start going off in my head, research find the waves come from nothing, on it face I find this incredibly hard to believe. I clicked the link trying to imagine how a huge wave would just form from nothing. The link opens and what do you think the title of the article is Secret to Towering Rogue Waves Revealed I am willing to bet that the secret is not nothing.
For centuries these killer waves had been dismissed as myths – towering walls of water blamed for mysterious disappearances of ships. But on New Year’s Day on 1995, a wave that reached more than 80 feet high was detected with scientific instruments at an oil platform in the North Sea, confirming the existence of these legends.
The waves are real and not just a myth and seemingly unconnected to the surface weather. What does the research say on how these waves come from nothing?
Previous work had suggested that it requires hundreds of miles of open sea for the waves to appear and disappear. Now scientists find that such waves could rapidly form without such buildup.
To investigate these waves, the researchers experimented with liquid helium in a cavity just an inch wide, whose fluid properties they could readily tinker with, far more so than attempting to do the same at sea. “The basic principles remain the same with both,” said researcher Peter McClintock, a physicist at the University of Lancaster in England.
Normally a large wave breaks up into smaller and smaller waves over time, until the viscosity of a fluid damps out these small waves. Now the scientists demonstrate the opposite can happen in fluids – tiny waves can concentrate together to become abnormally large waves “that emerge surprisingly quickly,” McClintock told LiveScience. “I’m pretty sure this is how rogue waves come about.”
Notice here where they reported the scientist believes the waves come from nothing? yeah I didn’t see it either, so how could the headline writer get this completely wrong to claim the research is saying the waves come from nothing? Well for both answers we only need to look at the first line of the article which is possibly the only thing the headline writer did.
Deadly rogue waves 100 feet tall or higher could suddenly rise seemingly out of nowhere from the ocean, research now reveals
Seemingly (emphasis added in quote) out of nowhere and actually out of nowhere mean two different things, as do nowhere and nothing… but I am not sure the headline writer knows the difference. The basic model for rouge waves is that smaller waves basically combine and form the larger rouge wave. This is not nothing, it is in fact something.
What bothers me here is that in science reporting this is how people get confused, between the headline and body their is a blatant contradiction. The research is clear and according to the researcher they have a good model by which these rouge waves could arise. If only yahoo could have a model by which accurate headlines arise.
At least that is the claim that has been made by Dr. Edgar Mitchel former NASA Astronaut. Dr. Mitchel was being interviewed on a radio show and made the following assertions.
“I happen to have been privileged enough to be in on the fact that we’ve been visited on this planet and the UFO phenomena is real,” Dr Mitchell said.
Then he can identify them why refer to them as UFO’s, they are no longer unidentified they are then alien spacecraft capable of interstellar travel. Does he have any technical information he can share of their more advanced technology?
“It’s been well covered up by all our governments for the last 60 years or so, but slowly it’s leaked out and some of us have been privileged to have been briefed on some of it.
“I’ve been in military and intelligence circles, who know that beneath the surface of what has been public knowledge, yes – we have been visited. Reading the papers recently, it’s been happening quite a bit.”
It’s a massive worldwide cover up among many nations to conceal the truth that immensely more advance alien species has been visiting earth, but why the cover up? Isn’t this the plot to the X-Files? You can read the full article of what Dr. Mitchel said here.
This not the first time Dr Mitchel has made this claim regarding UFO’s or even a pseudoscientific claims. He claims that the Roswell crash really happened meaning it was not project mogul He is also an avid ESP researcher and he privately conducted ESP expirements on the moon.
Dr. Mitchel is long on hypothesises but short on the evidence… he clearly claiming to have been brought in on the supposed UFO cover up. He surely should be able to identify other members of the conspiracy something other than we just have his word for it if he was on the inside who else was on the inside. I don’t mean to totally discount his word but I would prefer something to corroborate it or supported with some evidence. Perhaps a few more NASA personnel and astronauts coming forward with a similar experience. I would love nothing more than to find out about the existence of alien life outside earth, I think that for many people it would be a monumental point in the history of humanity to know there is other intelligent life and we are not alone wow that would just be awesome. Unfortunately all we have here is the claims of one man and nothing to support them.